The local Breech Lead makes a plan for how they will provide care for this birth. Ideally, someone who meets all of the OptiBreech Proficiency Criteria will attend the birth. Where this is not possible, the team will do their best to have someone attend the birth who has completed OptiBreech training.
How will they do that?
In this setting, ensuring experienced support is straightforward. The hospital employs a Consultant Midwife with a special interest in breech birth. She meets all of the Proficiency Criteria, and part of her job role is to attend planned vaginal breech births. While she is not paid for additional time on call, her Head of Midwifery has authorised her to claim time back for any birth she attends outside of her normal working hours.
In order to make the service sustainable, the Consultant Midwife will support the clinical staff caring for the woman to gain experience. Her role is to provide an additional layer of OptiBreech support and safety. Where possible, she will seek to involve another member of the OptiBreech team. This is the group of colleagues who expressed an interest in providing OptiBreech care, through the OptiBreech Interest and Proficiency Survey.
What if the Consultant Midwife can’t make it to the birth?
The expectation is that, where possible, a member of the OptiBreech team will be present for all of second stage at a minimum. For planned breech births, there is usually at least a few hours warning, time enough to sort out who is available to attend. All women are informed that there is not an absolute guarantee, and assisted to think through what might happen if no skilled and experienced practitioner is available.
If the Consultant Midwife can’t make it, she will liaise with her colleagues to determine whether someone else on the OptiBreech team is available. If no other skilled and experienced member of staff who has completed OptiBreech training is available, the woman will be informed of this. She will be counselled by the consultant obstetrician on-call and decide if she would like to proceed with a vaginal breech birth or have a caesarean section, just as she would if she were planning a VBB outside of the study.
If this occurs, and nobody who has completed OptiBreech training is available to attend the birth, this will be recorded on the Case Report Form. The research team will be monitoring this closely so that we can give women an accurate idea of how well they can depend on their birth being attended by someone with OptiBreech training.
There is no ‘penalty’ if a participating site is not able to get someone with the OptiBreech training to the birth. Part of what our feasibility testing will determine is how often this occurs. Women in our PPI group expressed understanding that it may be hard for Trusts to guarantee attendance, especially in the early days, but that they appreciated the willingness to try.
What will happen during the birth?
The OptiBreech team member who attends will lead the birth but liaise closely with the on-call consultant obstetrician, as an additional layer of safety. The team will ensure that the Pro Forma is completed, documenting the care around the time of birth.
What will happen after the birth?
The local Principal Investigator will gather the data from the birth and enter it onto a Case Report Form. This will be securely returned to the research team.
If the woman has consented to a follow-up interview or long-term outcome collection, the research team will be in touch as appropriate.
Your Research & Development Office have given your site the green light! This post will outline your first steps now that you are starting in the OptiBreech 1 Study.
In accordance with the protocol at site set-up, all sites should:
Provide the OptiBreech research team with a copy of your current guideline covering the management of breech presentation at term, including information provided to women.
Provide us with materials used in mandatory training and any specialist site-specific training, or a brief description. For example, we are interested if your mandatory training uses an in-house package or is based on PROMPT or another training programme.
Please answer: When a woman plans a vaginal breech birth, is it routine to put a plan in place to ensure she has experienced support at the birth, e.g. formal or informal on-call system? (Yes/No)
Liaise with your research team to identify how you will deliver the anonymised data required in the protocol, outlined below.
Make the OptiBreech training available to your staff members. The research team will provide further information on how to do this.
The data should cover all term singleton breech births (>37 weeks) occurring during the period beginning 2 years prior to the date of site opening. Thereafter, it should be returned monthly. We hope that this will be a fairly straightforward process once the electronic systems are set-up to download the data from your e-Health Records. If someone other than the PI will be providing this data (e.g. an audit or research midwife), please put the research team in touch with them.
Study Codes – to be maintained in site file only, in case of queries
Participant’s code, for use in case of queries
Maternal NHS Number
Maternal Hospital Medical Record Number
Anonymised cohort data to be obtained from electronic healthcare records
Maternal birth position (upright, supine, lateral, CS)
Admission to neonatal unit? (Yes, No)
Stillbirth or neonatal death (Yes, No)
The above information outlines the minimum required for sites who are participating in OptiBreech 1. For sites who are also intending to offer OptiBreech support for planned or unplanned breech births, these are the next steps.
Invite your colleagues to express an interest in delivering OptiBreech care by completing the consent form and survey. This is linked from the top of the Information for Professionals page. (password is available from the protocol or research team)
All staff members supporting OptiBreech births need to have completed the OptiBreech Training, also available from the Information for Professionals page. (password is available from the protocol or research team)
On-line participant Information Sheets and Consent Forms are all linked from the Information for Women and Birthing People page. (password is available from the protocol or research team — the research team are happy to run through this process with you whenever you like, so do not hesitate to be in touch)
In this study, the following count as accruals:
recruitment of women who are planning a vaginal breech birth with OptiBreech support;
interviews with health care professionals who have been involved directly or indirectly with care for women recruited to the study.
Because of the importance of developing services slowly and carefully where vaginal breech births have been rare in the past couple of decades, we have enabled sites to access the enhanced training in exchange for anonymised, retrospective data only; however the return of this data will not count as an accrual. There is no minimum recruitment target, though we may seek to interview key staff about their feelings of readiness / willingness to support planned vaginal breech births or to develop a proficient team.
When the breech presentation is diagnosed, staff should determine if there is someone available who has completed the enhanced training and/or meets the proficiency criteria, who can attend and support the birth. You can download a Breech Birth Pro Forma to assist with collecting all of the data we need about the birth.
If someone with OptiBreech training has attended the birth, the woman may be approached after the birth and asked for her consent for her data to be used in the study, as per the standard consent procedures. The person has the right to decline use of their data. The Participant Information Sheet and Consent Form are linked from this page (including a video version of the PIS). The password for the on-line Consent Form (preferred) is available from your local Principal Investigator.
Consent should be sought by someone who attended the birth, and they should also offer a thorough debrief of what happened at the birth at this time.
The longer explanation
In OptiBreech 1, we are collecting prospective observational data on planned vaginal breech births, where women and birthing people consent to our use of this data. This will include rates of vaginal birth and adverse outcomes for babies (death or admission to the neonatal unit) and mothers (PPH, severe perineal tears). We will also be looking at how many women plan a vaginal breech birth, and how many are attended by someone who has attended OptiBreech training and/or maintained proficiency-level experience. This will enable us to calculate whether a large trial will be possible.
Many participating sites are just beginning to re-build a breech birth service after decades of not offering such a service. Where overall experience levels are low, some Trusts are expecting to start out with mainly ‘undiagnosed breech births.’ This refers to a situation where the breech presentation is identified for the first time after the person has been admitted in labour. Approximately 20-30% of breech presentations are diagnosed for the first time in labour, or 5% where universal third trimester scanning has been implemented (Salim et al 2021).
The benefit-risk balance of vaginal birth vs caesarean section is altered when a woman is in labour. The findings of the Term Breech Trial indicated that a caesarean section performed prior to the start of labour significantly reduces risks to the baby compared to a vaginal birth (when the classical methods of delivery used in the TBT are used, Su et al 2003). This effect was less significant in early labour but still clear. However, when the woman was in active labour, defined as 3 cm or more, the benefit was less clear and did not reach statistical significance.
A potential benefit from a CS in labour needs to be balanced against known risks to the woman and future pregnancies. Although most women are very willing to sacrifice themselves for any benefit to their baby, a CS performed near to or in the second stage of labour also significantly increases the risks of early preterm birth and late miscarriage in all future pregnancies (Watson et al 2017).
Although many clinicians will still want to offer women a CS if they feel they have time to counsel appropriately, because of the change in benefit-risk balance in labour, the RCOG guideline currently advises that women near to or in the second stage of labour should not routinely be offered a CS. Women in our PPI group also tell us that being asked to decide on the mode of birth for a breech baby in labour, where there is no immediate threat to fetal well-being, is very stressful and can result in birth trauma, even where outcomes are good (Lightfoot 2018).
The OptiBreech study is designed on the premise that getting someone to a vaginal breech birth who has 1) completed an enhanced, evidence-based training package; and/or 2) has acquired proficiency-level experience, is likely to improve the outcomes of both planned and unplanned breech births. Therefore, we have worked into the protocol a way of enabling women with a breech presentation diagnosed in labour to participate, taking account of the RCOG guidance for obtaining valid consent to participate in perinatal research where consent is time critical (2016, see also Vernon et al 2006).
Women in our PPI group expressed that taking consent for participation in labour was not appropriate. As this is an observational, rather than interventional, stage of the study, and attendance of an OptiBreech-trained professional would be something in addition to, rather than replacing, standard care, they felt it was appropriate that women’s consent be taken retrospectively in the postnatal period. Standard counselling about mode of birth, according to RCOG guidelines, would apply in labour.
Women also identified that many found the experience of undiagnosed breech birth traumatic regardless of the outcome, due to the concern staff expressed when discovering their baby to be breech. However, they were rarely offered an opportunity to process what had happened with staff who were present. PPI participants said they felt women would benefit from careful explanations in the postnatal period. We therefore added the last step. We are grateful for the guidance of our PPI group, so that we can make participation in OptiBreech 1 potentially beneficial for women, rather than a burden.
If you have any comments to make about this process, you are welcome to leave them here or contact the research team.
You are invited to an open discussion about the Draft of the new NICE Antenatal Care Guideline. Breech Birth Network would like to collect the views of families who have experienced a breech presentation at term and care providers on the draft guidance. Josephine and Thiago talk about their experience of Ulysse’s breech birth at…
We invite participation in an on-line PPI (patient and public involvement) meeting to be held on the 10th of December.
We would like to invite women, birthing people and their families who have experienced a breech pregnancy at term to attend an online focus group discussion on Thursday 10th December 10.30-11.30am to be conducted via Microsoft Teams. Anyone with an interest and experience of breech pregnancy can participate.
The purpose of this meeting will be to get your perspective on the following issues:
A core outcome set is a minimum set of outcomes that should be collected in every study about a topic, in this case vaginal breech birth at term. Making these consistent means that we can better compare and combine studies, and ensure research meets the needs of those who use it.
To develop a core outcomes set, we have conducted a systematic review of the available literature relevant to this project (brief summary below). However, we need your input to determine if these outcomes are important to the people who will use the results of research to make decisions, and how important each is. Does this meet all your informational needs or are there outcomes that have not been identified, which you think is important to record?
Do you think it is important to include salutogenically focused outcomes that emphasize positive well-being of the mother and newborn such as maternal satisfaction, relationship with baby etc.? If so, which factors would you like to see and how important do you think these are?
The next stage will be to ask both professionals and service users to rate the importance of the outcomes to be included in the core outcome set. But before we do this, we want to insure all of the outcomes important to you are included.
You are welcome to share your feedback directly during the focus group meeting or by emailing Tisha Dasgupta (email@example.com), the OptiBreech Research Assistant, at any point. If you are unable to make it and would like to contribute, or have further feedback after the session, please also contact Tisha.
While we do not require written consent for your participation in the meeting, it is important to let you know that the session will be recorded. We intend to take the feedback you provide into consideration while designing the next stage of this project: a multinational Delphi study. No identifiable information will be used such as direct quotes or anecdotes, and we will only report summary data.
Thank you very much for your consideration. Please could you send your RSVP to firstname.lastname@example.org by Monday, 7th December to confirm your attendance at the session? She will be in touch thereafter to provide you access to the online meeting.
We’d also love to hear your views on the information presented on the OptiBreech website!
Overall summary of the Systematic Review
A systematic review of all relevant literature was conducted to identify outcomes, definitions and measurements previously reported in effectiveness studies of breech births at term. 108 studies were identified comprising of systematic reviews, randomised controlled trials and comparative observational studies, with full-text available in English. Below are the most common outcome measures, with a percentage of how many studies reported them. These are the top 10 most frequently reported measures in each category grouped by neonatal, maternal, features of labour, and long-term maternal outcomes respectively.
% studies reported
APGAR score at 5 minutes
Perinatal or neonatal mortality
Admission to neonatal intensive care unit (NICU)
Neonatal birth trauma/morbidity
Brachial plexus injury / peripheral nerve injury
Low umbilical artery pH
Hematoma (cephalic or subdural)
Post-partum haemorrhage (PPH)
PPH requiring blood transfusion
Other serious maternal morbidity/other complications
This research is funded by an NIHR Advanced Fellowship. The entire process took about 2 years, from the early stages of writing (2018) to the time the fellowship began (2020). The final design of the research was influenced by further PPI work with service users and professionals in participating sites.
Most babies are born head-first (cephalic), but about 1 in 25 are in a bottom-down position (breech) after 36 weeks of pregnancy, and some are not detected until labour. These babies have some increased risk around the time of birth, so most are born by caesarean section. However this is also associated with some risks for the babies, for mothers and for future pregnancies. Mode of childbirth is a very personal decision.
Women who have experienced breech pregnancies have asked for:
more information about non-caesarean options; and
reliable support from an experienced midwife or obstetrician if a vaginal birth is planned.
These requests align with national policy to enable maternal choice.
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists guideline indicates that with experienced attendants, a breech birth may be almost as safe as a cephalic birth. A package of care known as ‘physiological breech birth’ (PBB) may further reduce birth-related risks for the baby and increase the chance of a vaginal birth.
PBB care includes:
specialist team leadership,
evidence-based training, and
an active birth approach, including the mother’s choice of birthing position.
Previous research shows all three elements are necessary parts of the intervention.
We do not know whether PBB is as safe and cost-effective as standard care for breech presentation at the end of pregnancy. One way to find out is by a clinical trial, to compare outcomes in women who have standard care with those who have physiological breech care.
Some important questions must be answered first to design a successful large-scale trial. This is called a ‘feasibility study.’ The questions include:
What outcomes are most important to women and professionals? An agreement on what should be measured will be developed using on-line surveys with women and experienced professionals. The main outcomes being considered are: admission to the neonatal unit, vaginal birth, known caregiver in labour, satisfaction with care, whether everyone has the same access (equity), health service use and quality of life outcomes, for 2 years after birth.
How many women might wish to take part in a large trial? To predict this accurately, we will run a small version of the trial, aiming to recruit 100 women within four maternity units in South London.
Can we collect all of the information we need, and how much time does it take? We will describe how much can be obtained from routinely collected data and how much needs to be asked of women and staff.
How do women and staff feel about the interventions we are comparing? We will use surveys and interviews to collect views about the acceptability of PBB and standard care.
How much does it cost to provide PBB care, compared to standard care? We will collect information about costs of providing care and how they are measured, so a large trial can determine if PBB represents good value for money.
How many sites across the UK would be willing and able to participate in a full trial? We will survey all UK maternity units.
Is a full trial likely to succeed? The information gathered in this feasibility study will help us to predict whether enough women might take part, and whether women and staff would find the PBB service acceptable if used more widely in the NHS following a trial.
An initial objective of this research is to develop a core outcome set for effectiveness trials of vaginal breech birth (COMET). Establishing a core outcome set enables the results of trials to be combined and compared in meta-analysis and gives us a way to judge the effectiveness of interventions across settings.
If it does not prove feasible to conduct a randomised trial, a different design may work better. For example, a large prospective observational study, using the same core outcome criteria. While many sites within the UK are implementing physiological breech birth, many successful early adopters are outside of the UK. Collaborating with them will enable each of us to demonstrate local results, and to identify the incidence of rarer outcomes such as perinatal morbidity and mortality (death or serious illness around the time of birth).
Therefore I am proceeding with both potential projects in mind, so that the work has a flexible back-up plan for providing the answers that women and health care professionals want about physiological breech birth. I have applied for a smaller grant, which would fund the outcomes consensus project and creation of an on-line database, to which collaborators anywhere in the world could contribute once local approvals are obtained. If both applications are successful, the international prospective observational study would provide evidence of the generalisability of any results we see within the UK study.
International collaborators who have agreed to lead data collection in their countries are:
Germany — Dr Anke Reitter, Chief Obstetrician, Krankenhaus Sachsenhausen, Frankfurt
Australia — Dr Andrew Bisits, Director of Obstetrics, Royal Hospital for Women, Sydney
Denmark — Dr Kamilla Gerhard-Nielsen, Obstetrician, Syghus Sønderjylland, Aabenraa
Netherlands — Dr Floortje Vlemmix, Amsterdam Universitair Medische Centra; and Dr Leonie van Rheenan-Flach, OLVG West, Amsterdam
Sweden — Dr Julia Savchenko, Obstetrician, Södersjukhuset, Stockholm
Canada — Jane Wines, Midwifery Lecturer, University of British Columbia
Ethiopia — Kidist Eshetu Berhahu, Hawassa College of Health Science, Ethiopia; and Shimeles Tsegaya Tessema, Dilla University
Hungary — Dr Zoltan Kovacs, Obstetrician, Robert Hospital, Budapest
Brazil — Professor Melania Amorim, Senior Researcher & Obstetrician, Instituto Paraibano de Pesquisa Professor Joaquim Amorim Neto (IPESQ) and Dr Priscila Ribeiro Huguet, San Paolo
Belgium — Dr Caroline Daelemans and Dr Sara Derisbourg, Erasme Hospital, Brussels
India — Dr Evita Fernandez and Indie Kaur, Fernandez Hospital Foundation, Hyderabad
United States — Dr Emiliano Chavira, St Francis Medical Centre, and Dr Annette Fineberg, Sutter Davis Medical Centre, California, USA
Spain — Carmen Medina Mallen, Hospital de Sant Pau, Barcelona
If you are potentially interested in collaborating in this project, please contact me via the form below.
Each time I teach the Breech Birth Network Physiological Breech Birth Study Day, I explain the feasibility study and trial I am hoping to do and invite feedback from those attending. Below are examples of feedback from around the UK:
Hayward’s Heath, December 2019 — Princess Royal Hospital
Some surprising feedback in a recent meeting with the Lead Obstetrician and Director of Midwifery in one of the South London teaching hospitals who are not currently planning to participate in the randomisation element of the feasibility study. This hospital is further along implementing a breech clinic and some on-call element to support physiological breech births. Because of this, they feel it might be unethical to randomise women to ‘standard care,’ as outlined in the Description of Intervention. They will still be participating in the implementation evaluation aspect of the feasibility study. I and the Steering Group will be considering this and feedback from other Trusts when deciding if the final design should be modified in a larger study.
In addition to face-to-face activities, when developing this proposal I circulated an invitation to participate in PPI via my professional blog (breechbirth.org.uk) and social media. Twenty-one women and three people who work with pregnant women (midwife, doula, osteopath) expressed an interest. Some of these women attended the face-to-face meeting at St Thomas’ Hospital in April 2019, organised by the South London Maternity Voices Partnership. I met with two women individually in East Anglia, and seven women responded to a survey (via SurveyMonkey) asking about their views on the plain English summary of my proposal. This post reports the responses of these seven women to this summary and how this has influenced the form of the final proposal.
All comments are reported and all women were asked for permission to share these responses anonymously.
All seven women (100%) indicated that, “I or my partner have had a breech baby within the last 5 years,” within the UK. Comments included:
I had an undiagnosed breech vaginal delivery in 2015, in spite of having had numerous palpations/sweeps in the weeks leading up to the birth.
I experienced my own undiagnosed breech birth (vaginal delivery) in December 2015. Happy to provide in depth detail of my birth story; it is also published in my own work on this.
My breech baby was undiagnosed as breech, so I have no experience of what it feels like to contemplate the choice between natural breech birth or cesaerean. I am however part of various breech networks on social media and take part in many discussions about this. I had my breech baby at home, and unassisted, with no complications.
“I gave birth at home to my frank breech baby. I wasn’t supported by most of the health professionals I met and when it came to the birth it didn’t feel safe to go to our hospital where they were very short staffed and my labour progressed too quickly for me to get there! I trusted my body knew what to do and our baby was born safely with my just my husband watching! Paramedics arrived and our doula as our baby was born. The midwifes weren’t available for another 4 hours! It was a huge shame as they missed the opportunity to experience my calm, pain free, extremely well researched breech birth.”
Impact on proposal: ‘Undiagnosed breech birth’ means the breech presentation is diagnosed for the first time when the woman is in active labour, rather than during her antenatal care. Occurrences of undiagnosed breech births seem a significant component of ‘breech experience’ among women in the UK. My original proposal focused solely on management of breech presentations that are diagnosed antenatally, but I realised this is not enough. Also, the last randomised controlled trial of term breech births (Hannah et al 2000) included breech presentations diagnosed for the first time in labour. Although recruitment during labour is particularly challenging, PPI feedback indicates meeting this challenge is important.
These results were similar to those received in the face-to-face and staff PPI activities.
I think women will want to take part to ensure that breech pregnancies and births are better dealt with. Natural births of breech babies should be supported more, so this study will help.
I feel women would participate especially if they have had choice taken away from them. Enabling informed choice and joint decision making is crucial for all woman no matter what presentation.
Yes but only if they are reassured prior to birth that they will not be forced into a certain birthing choice because they signed up for the trial. I think constant reminders would be helpful to them that they still have choice throughout otherwise this could be a potential barrier to recruitment.
I felt very pressured during my pregnancy by doctors, and really struggled to make choices. (Whether to homebirth or not). I feel that any woman in this situation or who has had previous experience of hospital would be very glad to take part in something that could change the way women are treated and spoken to in hospitals. I personally would be willing to take part in any research that improved the way pregnant women are treated.
If the question is meaning the breech births that have already happened then it is likely the women will want to take part to help other women. If it is for women about to give birth to breech babies then it depends on how confident, trusting and educated her team of midwives and consultants are of breech vaginal delivery.
Influence on research design: At least some women find decision-making around mode of childbirth with a breech baby difficult, and that at least some women have felt pressured and have experienced a lack of respectful care. Ensuring this research does not result in harm of this type is important to me. This influenced the design in the direction of a pragmatic RCT. In the original proposal, I had planned to conduct an efficacy study, which requires strict adherence to group allocation. However, through engagement with women I came to feel this would not be ethical, nor would it provide the type of ‘real world’ decision-making information women wanted. Recruitment would also have been more difficult.
It will give women a better understanding of their options and what they consist of. It will help women come to the right decision that best suits them.
Empowering women to trust in their body’s natural ability will always be a positive thing
Yes, any additional information to what is already known will always serve to be helpful to women and allow them to make more informed choices.
I think there is very little information available on breech birth, and the stuff that is isn’t “readily” available unless you go looking for it and do your own research. I think newer studies and studies with more data are definitely needed and would provide women with up to date research and the information they need to make informed decisions.
Any extra research would definitely be helpful, the way the world is now it seems most people like statistics and there’s so much health and safety surrounding breech births in many hospitals/countries. Women are then too nervous by the lack of skill so they opt for a c-section.
This is fantastic! I gave birth to my breech baby in November 2017! It was the most incredible experience of my life where I truly tuned into my body. I did huge amounts of research during pregnancy and continue to do so now. Birth is incredible but breech birth is fascinating and it’s become my passion. I would love to be involved with this as much as possible!
Influence: I have created a mailing list to keep all respondents informed of the progress of this research and aware of any opportunities to contribute further, with clear information about how to remove themselves from the list and have any personal data deleted.
Below are some additional comments from women who did not participate in the survey, but expressed interest in PPI participation in general. Although I have anonymised responses, aside from one link the person wanted to share, they came from all over the UK. Women seeking support for a current pregnancy were referred to an independent breech midwife not involved with this research, with their permission.
I just came across this. I’m don’t work in the medical profession but my baby was a breech baby. I requested a vaginal delivery which was very negatively received by my hospital. I very much wanted to attempt it, which I did (in the understanding that if it became too dangerous I would agree to a c-section) However I have found out from a report that the second stage of my delivery was very poorly managed and sadly my baby died just after he was born. I was very much made to feel Like it was my fault for the birth choice I made. I truly wish there had been more open discussion about how my hospital felt about it and why they were so reluctant to support me. Breech birth should be talked about and openly discussed more. Great that it’s finally happening.
I experienced primi breech vaginal birth under Dr X in X Hospital, X city in 2014. I had a doula and I’ve trained to be a doula since. Breech birth in hospital can and should happen, and happen safely. I’m interested in being involved if I can be of use.
During my last pregnancy we found out baby was footling breech at about 36 weeks during a growth scan. Previous to this all midwives and doctors has told me he was head down. I had an ecv and went on to have a successful vaginal birth at 41 +3
I had a breech baby by (reluctant) c-section 3 years ago. There was a general lack of experience in vaginal breech birth in my area.
My daughter (born November 2016) was undiagnosed breech. My waters broke and instead of waiting for the normal 24hrs, the obstetrician recommended an induction as the midwife had picked up a small drop in her heart rate. It was the obstetrician’s opinion that the drop was probably due to position but still no one noticed she was breech. The diagnosis came when I was 5cm dilated and a midwife felt the my daughter’s bum during a VE. I wasn’t given much of an option then and whisked into an emergency c-section.
I’m pregnant again and though still early (28 weeks) baby is currently breech too. I’m trying to explore all my options and to be prepared for different scenarios this time round, but am finding that a lot of the research I come across is inconclusive. If there’s anything I can do to help, I’d be very happy to contribute.
Im currently pregnant with extended breech baby. my second pregnancy. no risks.
I would like to consider the natural birth. Doctors recommend CS but I don’t feel I got all the information to make informed decision.
I heard confusing message like we have no experience which is concerning and no statistics but more list of things which can go wrong.
I would like to find out pros and cons so I can make informed choice.
I would appreciate if you can get in touch with me.
I am 38.5 weeks pregnant.
I’ve stumbled on your website by chance. I had a breech baby in October 2016 at X Hospital. We didn’t discover breech until 41 weeks and at that point I was immediately coerced into agreeing to a c-section which was performed less than 12 hours later. I found the experience highly traumatic and ended up with anxious episodes (flashbacks/obsessive thoughts/nightmares etc etc) which required counselling.
I would love to be able to help with your research in the hope that future women do not have to experience what I did.
I’d like to register my interest. I had a breech pregnancy in 2014 which resulted in a Caesarean section.
I’d love to help in anyway possible. I’m currently a final year Midwifery Student with a passion for VBB and the topic is also my dissertation topic.
Definitely interested in helping in any way with the research!
I used this site and many others in order to make a decision about my recent birth. My baby was extended breech for most of the pregnancy and after reading as much as I possibly could about why a possible vaginal delivery was possible I declined the elective section and waited for natural labour to happen.
Supported by my NHS midwives, I went into labour and made the plan to labour naturally in hospital for a set amount of time and opt for no intervention and an emergency c if things didn’t progress. After an amazing 22 hour labour, a few hours fully dilated with faint declining contractions and no desire to push and no descending baby, I opted for (a calm and requested by myself) “emergency” c and was so happy to have been given the opportunity to give natural birth a good go, and know when to call it a day and not force it.
I wanted to share my story but am really happy to be involved in any research. I was only able to make a decision about my birth as I asked CONSTANT questions and read every single possible thing I could about breech birth. More information definitely needed so women can also make this decision for themselves and like me, EVEN thought I had an emergency c, come out the other end ELATED with their experience as they know they made all the right decisions based on information and not scare stories or sweeping statements.
Thanks for listening 🙂
I am currently 40 weeks pregnant with a breech baby hoping for a natural delivery and I would like to be involved in this project.
I had a very happy breech birth experience in February this year at X Hospital in Wales, X. I was due to have a c-section but went into labour early and then opted for vaginal birth, with encouragement from team of medical staff. Incredible midwives guided me through whole process. I feel so pleased and privileged to have such a positive birth story.
I had an undiagnosed breech vaginal birth 15th March 2015. My daughter had no complications and neither did I. She was born at 40+1. I would be happy to take part in any studies that I may be able to help with.
I saw on the X Facebook page that you are conducting studies on Breech babies.
Unfortunately I’m not available on 29th April but would be happy to help in any other way I can.
My daughter now 13months was a breech baby and I desperately wanted a vaginal birth so had to ECVs to try and turn her. They were both unsuccessful. I refused a planned c-section hoping to deliver vaginally but after 18hours of labour which didn’t progress very well I eventually had a c-section out of fear of endangering her life.
I wish there had been more support to enable a vaginal delivery. I felt that most staff didn’t feel confident enough to support and allow a breech vaginal delivery.
In developing this proposal, I sought feedback from clinical leaders in the participating Trusts, as well as my research support team and personal international network of breech clinicians.
In May 2019, a Physiological Breech Birth study day was held at St Thomas’ Hospital in London. This included presentation of the feasibility study design, with an invitation to provide feedback via the Poll Everywhere app.
A total of 77 people attended the day. Information on their backgrounds is below.
All attendees received a Description of Intervention and an explanation of the feasibility study design by the Chief Investigator. We asked health care professionals and trainees how many women they felt would be willing to participants. Their responses ranged from 0-8, with a mean of 4.3. This was slightly lower than predicted by PPI work with women.
Reassuringly, after learning about physiological breech birth and the proposed feasibility study, professional opinions about the potential of the intervention appeared largely positive. But this was a self-selecting audience who chose to attend the study day and may not reflect the opinions of the wider maternity care team. And not everyone who attended the day was able to stay until the end to complete the survey.
Physiological Breech Birth care depends on a portion of health care professionals being willing to work flexibly in order to ensure experienced support at breech births. Feedback indicated that, although this was not something every practitioner was willing to do, a sufficient number to create a breech team was likely to be achievable.
Read more about health care professionals’ responses to the feasibility study design: